Anybody still here? Well, this should be the last page, since he's "given me the last word" in this letter, not that it means much, since he's obviously not changed his tune, other than being unhappy that lots of people now know or at least thing he's a moron. This shouldn't do anything to dissuade them either. It's about as coherent as most of the pathetic whines I get from his ilk, and just goes to prove that while ignorance is curable, there just isn't any cure for stupid but dead. I've decided to annotate this one with my own little vitriolic comments. I was nice in my personal responses, I'm just going to let the snide flow now.

From: "Stephane X."
Subject: Something to think about

Well you made your point.

Now i just received a e-mail from someone else (Bruce murphy) who also writed to me about my postings. since i gived my adress only to you, then i can only conclude that you sent to him my adress and possibly everthing i said.

Well, he'd posted his address to the newsgroup when he posted the images, so as far as I know, that made it fair game. My thanks to Mr. Murphy and anyone else who's sent their opinion to Monsieur T.

I don't know know why you need to have others to support your point, still what he said was less furious and more short than yours and at the same time pointing out the same things as you do. So i will include here my answer to him.

He seems to have assumed that I asked people to mail him. I haven't asked anyone, just offered them the chance to readily and simply state their own feelings to him on the subject. Besides, he was the one who wanted it to "stay personal". And did I sound furious in my e-mail? I tried not to get too vitriolic. I wonder what he'd feel like if I'd actually used harsh language?

Last thing: i won't send to you any more messages, so you can have the last word if you wish.

The last word? To my knowledge "getting the last word" pertains to arguments and debates. Since this was neither argument nor debate, I'm not sure how it pertains to anything. I'm assuming, out of sheer nastiness, that this merely represents the childish, immature sort of personality involved, that places great weight on "getting the last word". Of course I imagine he'd take this page and comments as me indeed trying to get the last word. I'm also assuming that the bit that follows is his e-mail to Mr. Murphy. I have no idea what Mr. Murphy said, so like me you'll have to make your own assumptions about what he's responding to.

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Hi,

First, i am not the one who colorized the pics, it's done by spiderman Jr.

I'm figuring he's either accused of being the artist as well as the poster, or this is simply an attempt to divert blame from himself towards his "friend". It's not his fault, he merely posted the stuff sans permission.

Second, almost all of the pics i sent in usenet HAVE the original artist's name in it. It is clearly writed: Colorized by Spiderman Jr, following by the artist's name (when he have made one). You (and Wolf Kidd) didn't seem to have noticed that witch seem to surprised me given that you seem to look carefully to that aspect. Just go to ABPEF and look by yourself.

Almost only counts in horse-shoes, hand-grenades and thermonuclear weapons. Not to mention I wasn't giving him flack about any other images originally, just the one Brian O'Connell ripped image, which didn't have the proper permissions. I'm also dreadfully ill of this attitude that when someone screws up, it's supposed to be other people's duty to go out and look for all the good things they did too, so they can show how justified they are. Apparently being responsible for your actions when your in the wrong, is out of vogue at the end of the Millennium.

Finally, since when that everyone who have sent anything to the newgroups have all the permission from the artist? Just a exemple: someone decided to post every pics he got of Jessica Rabbit to ABPEC. Now do he have to wtite to the 30 and more artists who made them? He certainly would gived up to post just to think of that.

How many of you didn't hear "If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you jump too?" , or something similar, from your parents at one time or another during your childhood or ,more likely, early teens? Obviously, the cry of "but everyone else is doing it!" holds an equal amount of water in this instance too. This statement is also pretty much the crux of the problem; actually getting the proper permissions would be a lot of work, which as he says, his ilk aren't inclined to do.

And is only the artists (and the VERY few who got their permission) who have the right to post any pics? Then the newsgroup would be almost empty with only a few pics now and then between all the shitload of spams (Hey, isn't that what is happening right now to ABPEF?).

Back when I was actually reading the newsgroups a lot, I remember the binaries groups being full of image files, most of them either posted by the artists or by people with permission. The newsgroups are empty these days because very few people want to go to the effort of posting to a newsgroup that's mostly spam from adult porn web sites, especially when they can create a web-site and target the audience they want. And there's nobody else posting, because who wants to read a newsgroup that 90% spam? Of course there's the alternative argument of is it better to have the newsgrop ruined by people indiscriminately mass-posting their ads for their adult sites, or by people indiscriminately posting other people's art which will irritate the artists and cause it to be harder to get the art in the first place?

Let's face it: the succes of a newsgroup like ABPEC is because of many like us who have send pics (or anything else) without the artists permission. Its shameful, it's lame, it's against copyright, but it's a fact.

And here we get to the summation of his whole response. What does it come down to? "Yes, it's bad. Yes, I know I shouldn't be doing it. Yes, I know it's illegal. But it's what I want, so I'm going to keep on doing it, and I don't really give a damn how thoughtless it is or who I harm." The focus of the whole problem is selfishness, thoughtlessness, laziness, and self-centered immaturity. Like I said at the very start, ignorance can be cured, but the only cure for stupid is dead. I've tried to cure ignorance by educating, telling someone that what they're doing is wrong, and telling them the simple means by which to get what they want and do it right. The response I get is repeated recriminations, insults, and a simple statement that the individual in question isn't going to listen, doesn't want to learn. Not even if multitudes of people try to explain the same thing. So be it. That, in my opinion, earns the stupid moniker in my book. There's no point in any further attempts to cure him, the only cure is letting nature take it's course and keeping our fingers crossed that Darwin was right.

Stephane X.

I'd like to end this on a slightly more positive note. I sincerely wish to thank the folks who sent me supportive pages and e-mail. I'd like to heartily applaud the individuals who gave a shot, no matter how futile, at trying to educate Monsieur T. And I wish to thank everyone else who either sent Monsieur T. a grump, bitch, howl, bark or other form of complaint. I never asked any of you to do it, just gave an opportunity to folks to see if they'd respond. To all of you, it's you who are the sort of people who keep me drawing and making my work available to the public in spite of all the vanities and stupidities. Thank-you!

Jeremy "Wolf" Kidd

Comments to Wolf are always accepted.